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Line 1: − + − She came as one of the associates along with Queen Kaikeyi+ − + + − It’s a known fact that if you have a दायादी then what other fire you need ? + − ज्ञाती दासी अननल कम + + − She had inner insecurities and victimized herself. She was mean by nature + − + − She had her own private residence − − − − − − RajaNiti says it gives good balance between completeness and incompleteness. − − Shakuni and Manthara came from same region: Gandhar. − − Kanika, a consultant of the Kurus, also is from the same place. − − An unfortunate reality was that unlike Kubja from Mathura, Manthara chose not to be impacted by Sri Rama’s great qualities. − − Our background has an impact but it doesn’t bind. − − She “was” अबला but used that for her advantage and became सबला − − She could speak anything that she wanted to the Queen. − − She could reject and be rude to the Queen for her gift. − − She could completely brainwash the Queen after being so arrogant. − − She over stepped her boundaries so far that she even shared a strategy with the Queen on how to deal with her husband, King Dasarath. − − Her Propaganda Her narratives to brainwash Kaikeyi − − "You have become enemy to your own son by allowing Rama’s coronation." − − "Your husband only enjoyed you, used you, and fooled you." − − "He has established Rama as the Crown Prince." − − "He has killed you along with your relatives." − − "Before its too late, save yourself, save your son and save ME !! " − − "DO NOT remain stunned!! " − − "You will be servant of Kausalya" − − "You need to offer respect to her" − − "Bharata has to be servant too" − − "Rama’s women will rejoice (bad remarks)" − − "Rama will certainly send him to Yama Puri" − − "Rama’s spy may go and kill him in Gandhar" − − "You have harassed Kauslaya, now she not leave you." − − She stayed 25 years in Ayodhya --did not see anything but ordinary selfishness. − − Manthara is not only historical figure, she continues to live. − − जीवन द्रोह शक्ती − − Many people justify that society was responsible for her behavior. − − Socrates and Chanakya and many others were not good looking and handsome or attractive, but they had beautiful intellect that was integrating. Line 80:
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== BREAKING FORCES : MANTHARA ==
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== Breaking forces ==
ज्ञाती दासी
=== Manthara ===
She came as one of the associates (ज्ञाती दासी) along with Queen Kaikeyi. It’s a known fact that if you have a दायादी then what other fire you need ?<blockquote>ज्ञाती दासी अननल कम</blockquote>She was mean by nature. She had her own private residence. Shakuni and Manthara came from same region: Gandhar. Kanika, a consultant of the Kurus, also is from the same place. Manthara had inner insecurities and victimized herself. An unfortunate reality was that unlike Kubja from Mathura, Manthara chose not to be impacted by Sri Rama’s great qualities. Our background has an impact but it doesn’t bind. She “was” अबला but used that for her advantage and became सबला.
She could speak anything that she wanted to the Queen. She could reject and be rude to the Queen for her gift. She could completely brainwash the Queen after being so arrogant. She over stepped her boundaries so far that she even shared a strategy with the Queen on how to deal with her husband, King Dasarath.
==== Her propaganda / narratives to brainwash Kaikeyi : ====
<blockquote>"You have become enemy to your own son by allowing Rama’s coronation."</blockquote><blockquote>"Your husband only enjoyed you, used you, and fooled you."</blockquote><blockquote>"He has established Rama as the Crown Prince."</blockquote><blockquote>"He has killed you along with your relatives."</blockquote><blockquote>"Before its too late, save yourself, save your son and save ME !! "</blockquote><blockquote>"DO NOT remain stunned!! "</blockquote><blockquote>"You will be servant of Kausalya"</blockquote><blockquote>"You need to offer respect to her"</blockquote><blockquote>"Bharata has to be servant too"</blockquote><blockquote>"Rama’s women will rejoice (bad remarks)"</blockquote><blockquote>"Rama will certainly send him to Yama Puri"</blockquote><blockquote>"Rama’s spy may go and kill him in Gandhar"</blockquote><blockquote>"You have harassed Kauslaya, now she will not leave you."</blockquote>She stayed 25 years in Ayodhya --did not see anything but ordinary selfishness. Manthara is not only historical figure, she continues to live. <blockquote>जीवन द्रोह शक्ती</blockquote>Many people justify that society was responsible for her behavior. Socrates and Chanakya and many others were not good looking and handsome or attractive, but they had beautiful intellect that was integrating.
== Administration ==
Raja-Niti says the King and the Queen should see the physically challenged persons everyday. It shows that the king has to still improve his country/province. His work is in progress and not done. Raja-Niti says it gives good balance between completeness and incompleteness.
Raja-Niti says the King and the Queen should see the physically challenged persons everyday.
It shows that the king has to still improve his country/province. His work is in progress and not done.
Motiveless Malignant -- DOING EVIL BECAUSE YOU ARE EVIL
Motiveless Malignant -- DOING EVIL BECAUSE YOU ARE EVIL
She went into personal life of Kaikeyi and King Dasaratha
She went into personal life of Kaikeyi and King Dasaratha
Was she rejected because she was evil? OR Did she become evil because she got rejected?
Was she rejected because she was evil? OR Did she become evil because she got rejected?
VALMIKI MUNI answers...
VALMIKI MUNI answers...
=== Sumitra ===
=== Sumitra ===
Sumitra gave both her sons for serving the Lord.
Sumitra gave both her sons for serving the Lord. Her love was deep/thoughtful and sober and active and very rare. She is like the secret agents of a country who do seva and their seva (सेवा | selfless service) is neither recognized nor will be displayed.
Her love was deep/thoughtful and sober and active and very rare.
She is like the secret agents of a country who serve and their service is neither recognized nor will be displayed.
But sometimes exclusive love can cause conflict:
But sometimes exclusive love can cause conflict:
Sita and Lakshman
Sita and Lakshman
Sumitra was the first one, whom Kausalya called for sharing good news about Lord Ram’s coronation.
Sumitra was the first one, whom Kausalya called for sharing good news about Lord Ram’s coronation. She did not suffer envy towards Kausalya nor did she suffer any rejection caused by Kaikeyi.
Ramam Dasaratham viddhi maam viddhi Janakaatmajaam Ayodhyamataveem viddhi gaccha taatha yatha sukham
"Know Rama to be Dasaratha. Look upon Seetha the daughter of Janaka as myself. Consider the forest as Ayodhya and depart happily, my son!"
-- Sumitra
-- Sumitra